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Find Competitors to Spy On
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( D. W3 N4 @1 PFirst, we need a way to find competitors. This can be done by browsing traffic sources obviously. Another way to find affiliates is to use an oldie but goodie:
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* g; d9 {7 R; m: r1 ?Do a Google search for "t202kw" + "keyword/niche". You'll see a bunch of LP's that have been indexed. You can also search allinurl:"t202id" "t202kw". 7 z! d1 |2 ]( J9 L
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For CPV Lab search inurl:"/base.php?c=" +"key="
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6 g5 }, w  k9 C, U3 L( G5 P% n& }First, install Live HTTP Headers. You'll use this to follow redirects. When you click on an ad, have Live HTTP Headers on and follow the redirects. It will usually go ad-->tracker (p202, etc)-->offer. With Live HTTP Headers you'll be able to pick out the tracking domain as it goes by.& F" C4 G% T' ?! c+ F. k' P1 G

+ z5 k2 `8 [; i6 _+ ^1 _) ?7 R5 _  @So now that you've identified some affiliates, it's time to see what they're up to. With Live HTTP headers, you can see what affiliate network they're running through from the url's the link goes through. You'll just need to familiarize yourself with the different networks tracking domains (pretty easy to figure out though). ( A( d( g- D% t+ m* y- V& B9 D4 S

$ _  [8 j8 i1 U*Tip* Try going to the root of the domain LP you're checking out. Sometimes people will forget to put an index at the root, leaving all their LP's wide open for viewing ) W/ l4 t% ^, }  q! O% O% P7 a

4 ?3 o7 _5 y3 v" H* N+ wDigging Deeper. {! p! G$ S* o+ ^. c
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8 d$ y8 q/ Z# v% Yewhois has a couple interesting features. You can find other sites using the same Google Analytics ID, or Adsense publisher id. Do a search for Singlesnet.com, click on the 'reverse analytics' tab, and you'll see other sites using that same analytics ID. I've used this to find what other sites an affiliate runs. 9 Y! K8 c  G& G! i$ _
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Sometimes you can find useful information from Alexa, looking at the clickstream. Plug in a competitors domain and view the upstream sites to see where they're getting traffic from and the downstream sites to see what offers they're promoting.
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Using various combinations of these techniques can be really helpful to figure out what affiliates are up to. You can usually figure out what traffic sources they're running on, other landing pages, other sites, and what networks they run traffic through. ( @3 u" L, E- K% `3 w8 R( j
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So now you're probably excited to put on your spy glasses and get to work, but freak out that people are doing the same thing to you! In the next part of this post, I'll show you a few ways you can protect yourself from some of these tactics.8 G( g% P1 ], _2 Z. \, G- w% U

' n8 N, Y  K7 ^  K* ~If they put an index at the root, and you cant find anything from there, try doing the following search on google:
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Usually brings out a bunch of landers!
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3 E/ R  V9 H) uFor google search, do i search this way: "t202kw" + "loans" ? or t202kw + loans ?  V% p: s2 v: e; c4 u+ o) D8 V3 U" @( O
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Exactly as shown in the example. You can also Google - Google power search tips and get more examples. Keep in mind this post started in 2012. Most affiliates are not using that tracking tool anymore as more advanced tools have hit the market.
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3 c* R# N" U, }You are simply looking at the hops AKA the re-directs to find the source of the offer. Let's say I'm on Above All Offers pushing an offer. You can tell who I am running with by tracing the re-directs and examining the URLS. This tells you where the offer originates from. Keep in mind however that you won't always be able to tell. There are many factors involved. Honestly it's more of an advanced technique and not something even needed.3 w$ ^, w; T5 O% d" l3 U: Y
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4 E6 |& @5 N. S" m3 B% V0 p) k2 _4 KAnd also any simple explanation of what is making the above stuffs work?2 G( y* u% ]8 M
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Every page has Meta Data. This data is used to pass on information between websites / hosts. All Live HTTP HEADERS is doing is marking every re-direct that is taking place. These are often reffered to as HOPS. So My affiliate link may look like this9 T) g0 Z5 O2 S' I# P* D
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+ ]5 g+ Z, Q$ k& U+ NWhen clicked HTTP Live Headers records the multiple pages I go through to get to the final destination
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1st hop: My re-direct page for the affilite link1 d  {2 Z# J1 S( r
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2nd hop: The re-direct page for tracking on the Offer network like Above All offers
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So Live HTTP Headers records all 3 of these hops and I can see the URL. Now I can examine it and see that on the second hop it's running through AboveAllOffers. This technique is used by some affiliates to see who is the offer source. Perhaps Above All Offers is actually sourcing the offer from Mundo Media. If that was the case then I can go to Mundo Media and most likely get a better payout. The trouble comes in from identifiing which network is the source because in 2015 all of them use dedicated domains to route the re-direct through. So in the Live HTTP header you may just see the domain mmn-tracking . com which really tells you nothing unless you know that particular network uses that domain for the re-directs.8 v" o/ k; O. Y' y# T- x$ e

# Y1 V2 ~+ w& C( ]# ~& }# xThis is about as simple as I can get. It's nothing to focus on or spend a lot of time on.6 l! H& b; i4 Q5 J+ d+ C, \4 G
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Another nice spy technique is to use the 'use this image to search Google' option on Chrome to find all the places a banner is being used.
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发表于 2012-12-28 21:35:47 | 显示全部楼层
人工spy,呵呵,确实够学习的
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-12-28 21:54:24 | 显示全部楼层
各种办法适合不同的人群啊,哈哈

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发表于 2012-12-28 22:05:19 | 显示全部楼层
google一下吗,没发现有很多结果啊
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-12-28 22:07:36 | 显示全部楼层
ChaseDream 发表于 2012-12-28 22:05
9 H4 T6 x2 l% \  I' {9 c( vgoogle一下吗,没发现有很多结果啊

; m5 o/ v: v& ?  e1 h是不是中文GG的问题?

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发表于 2012-12-28 22:09:15 | 显示全部楼层
这个确实是好东西的说
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-12-28 22:17:34 | 显示全部楼层
ChaseDream 发表于 2012-12-28 22:05
6 y8 R8 B# z% Z  Zgoogle一下吗,没发现有很多结果啊

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发表于 2012-12-28 22:21:20 | 显示全部楼层
我试的是第三个,前两个好了。很好的方法
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-12-29 18:35:51 | 显示全部楼层
yhwkop 发表于 2012-12-29 18:33
( R5 m/ R3 M- x1 V1 E完全不明白是什么,什么代码??
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看了上面的回帖,你就差不多应该知道了啊

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发表于 2012-12-29 18:45:16 | 显示全部楼层
真正有时间的菜鸟看过来了,真正看不懂
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-12-29 18:51:11 | 显示全部楼层
帅帅的鱼 发表于 2012-12-29 18:45
% r/ @8 X3 c: g9 W! s. w  y( S7 t真正有时间的菜鸟看过来了,真正看不懂
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认真看看截图就可以了啊

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发表于 2012-12-29 19:27:35 | 显示全部楼层
很给力的说
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孤旅梦雪 发表于 2012-12-29 18:51
* m7 i4 P0 C. D2 X5 k2 l: _认真看看截图就可以了啊

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发表于 2012-12-29 21:19:58 | 显示全部楼层
新手学习下啊
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-12-29 21:44:26 | 显示全部楼层
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你自己到GG上试一试不就知道了吗?估计你是没有明白202是干什么的吧.

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