aff第一奇冤，Monetizer（afflow）没有作弊，账户无情被封！

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sghd 发表于 2018-2-1 21:26
$ u; ]- n, N1 v8 W% ^是 John封你的 ？

是的，John是我的AM，都是跟他在沟通，难道大佬认识？

kisscssy

应该是很多人都是john

清风教父

monetizer自己都会做弊跑。

清风教父

估计他们的跑法被广告主抓到了，拿你背锅吧。

sghd

499400587 发表于 2018-2-1 23:19
是的，John是我的AM，都是跟他在沟通，难道大佬认识？

你都能跑赢，牛×。 我不跑了，玩不转

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清风教父 发表于 2018-2-2 19:26
* W0 R- Y4 e$ X% }7 `估计他们的跑法被广告主抓到了，拿你背锅吧。

) {% m7 s, c. ]我擦，还有这么没节操的联盟

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2/2日，monetizer的邮件回复：
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# v6 c# Z3 u2 R7 T4 A0 W7 LGood Morning,
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Regardless of whether or not you purposefully violated the rules (we are well aware that it is highly unlikely you intended to do so), we still have to follow the same procedure we do with every case of fraud we get.

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早上好，
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不管你是否有意违反规定（我们清楚知道你打算这么做的可能性很小），我们仍然必须按照我们所做的每一个欺诈案例采取同样的程序。

, u) ?, B0 ^1 m! d; i另外，我们不能给你一个完整的报告，直到我们有一个完整的报告自己。 如前所述，我们只是简单地告诉自己和广告客户之间的问题，我们处于中间位置，因此我们只能向您提供更多详细信息，包括完整报告。

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" i! o9 g9 E" ^! _* P2/2日  回复给monetizer的邮件
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Dear John:

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Really thank you for the reply.

Thanks for having an account manager whoworks so hard and responds to me early in the morning.

Now, I know you work between me andadvertisers. You can not provide advertisers' contact information and myreports, maybe you have your working principles or your trade secrets, so I canunderstand now that you have done for me and sincerely thank you very much.

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I knew afflow last year, Many people posteda lot on forums about how to make profits by using popads, zeropark. Theyrecommend newbie to start their affiliate promotion from affow. Of course it isby legal means.

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The first time I came to monetizer, I feltthat this platform was very unusual and there had so many dense numbers on itand it looked like a stock exchange.I think others can profit from monetizer, soI can too. I follow other people's introduction, Begin by analyzing the data onmonetizer just as you would analyze the supply and demand in the stock market,and then pick the potential offer, buy traffic, run it.

The beginning of a constant loss, and evenbegan to doubt it. Later, I started to consult other afflitate, And ask themhow they I send most of my traffic to that offer which I've specified. Becausebefore that, traffic is always been sent to the other offer . At the beginning,I was almost crazy about this problem. . . When this problem is resolved, thesituation seems to be getting better. I have gradually found my own dataoptimization methods, the loss is gradually reduced.

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Later, until I tested a few goodconversions on popcash, Either they had brought me a little profit, but it alsobrought me a lot of trouble, that you know.

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Monetizer is still a good platform for now,though it has such a rigorous audit mechanism. I think if I later increase thevote on the monetizer I may get more money because I may have found a way forme, of course, this is the legal method.

Of course, I also have my concerns, how toavoid the unpleasant events like this?

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In the end, I'm just a tiny minority of affiliates,and you had spend a lot of time and energy on me, and if you spend these timeand energy on other good affiliates, those affiliates may bring more benefitsto monetizer and you, is not it? But you did not do this, still reluctantlyreply to my every mail, really very touched, so how can I thank you?

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Kind regards

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An affiliate who is waiting for the truth

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真的很感谢你的的回复。

感谢我有一个工作如此认真负责并且能在一大早就给我回复的账户经理。

现在，我知道你工作在我和广告商之间。你们不能提供广告商的联系方式和我的报告，也许是你有你们的工作原则或者是为了保护你们的商业机密，所以我可以理解你为我所做的一切并表示由衷的感谢。

我是去年通过一些论坛了解到afflow的，有一些人在上面发表了许多怎样通过afflow利用popads、zeropark等等赚取利润，并且他们推荐新人由此进入aff的世界。当然这都是通过合法的方式。

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当我第一次登陆monetizer的时候，我觉得这个平台非常不一般，如此多密密麻麻的数字看起来就像一个股票交易市场。我觉得别人能从monetizer上获利，我也可以。因此我按照别人的介绍，开始像分析股票供求那样分析monetizer上的数据，然后挑选有潜力的offer，购买流量，跑它。

一开始不断的亏损，甚至开始怀疑它。后来我开始向其他他afflitate请教，如何才能把大部分的流量发送到我希望的那个offer  A，因为在这之前，流量总是被发送到了offer  B、C、D、E，这个问题一开始都差点把我折磨疯了。。。当这个问题解决后，情况似乎变得好转起来。我也逐渐找到了自己的数据优化方式，亏损在逐渐缩小。

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后来直到我在popcash上测试出几个转化不错的offer，他们虽然给我带来了一些很小的收益，但是同时也给我带来了不小得麻烦，这你是知道的。

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到现在是还是觉得monetizer是个不错的平台，虽然它有如此严格的审计机制。我觉得如果我以后加大在monetizer上的投也许我会获得更多的收益，因为我可能已经找到了适合我的方法，当然这是合法的方法。

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当然，我也有我的顾虑，以后如何避免像这次的不愉快事件发生？

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最后，我只是众多aff中微不足道的一个，你在我这里花费了大量的时间和精力，如果你把这些时间和精力花费在其他优秀的aff上，那些aff也许会给monetizer和你带来更多的收益，难道不是吗？但你并没有这么做，依旧不厌其烦的回复我每一封邮件，真是是非常感动，那么我该如何感谢你？

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2/6日，没有回应又给他们写了封邮件，很简短，感觉我的耐心正在被消耗。。。
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$ w5 R% d/ p6 ^( |0 X# kI know every email may cause nuisance to you, but I look forward to hearing from you.
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It has been a few days. What did advertisers say? I want to hear their truth.

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I hope I get the result as soon as possible.
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Kind regards
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亲爱的约翰

我知道每封电子邮件都可能对您造成滋扰，但我期待您的回音。
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已经有几天了。 广告客户是怎么说的？ 我想听听他们的真相。

这次给我带来了很多麻烦，因为冤枉的味道真坏。
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我希望我尽快得到结果。

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  J+ P/ {0 a. L  {6 s2/7日，经过不断的申诉，monetizer终于同意全额付款！{:soso__5462389604067913156_1:}{:soso__5462389604067913156_1:}
monetizer将暂时开放我的账户让我填写收款信息，但是完成付款后账户将被关闭。
monetizer最终还是认定流量欺诈，但是也认可我在这其中并没有恶意为之。
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Hey,
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We have received a report back from our advertiser, however some details are sensitive and so I am unable to send it through.

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Unfortunately due to our fraud procedures this means we cannot work with your traffic again and your account will remain closed.
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: i6 D. ?* V+ w" V- a7 i# L* s: }6 i+ hI will be opening the account temporarily in order for you to enter your bank details so we can make payment, so for now it is open, please enter your bank details as soon as possible and we can get your payment to you.

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John
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我们已收到来自广告客户的报告，但有些细节很敏感，所以无法发送。
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但是，我可以确认交通是欺诈性的。 话虽如此，我们知道您只是买了车流而已，而且这件事并不是故意恶意的，所以作为一种善意的表示，我们将支付您账户中累积的所有收入。

不幸的是，由于我们的欺诈程序，这意味着我们不能再次处理您的流量，您的帐户将保持关闭。

我将暂时开立账户，以便您输入您的银行信息，以便我们能够付款，所以现在开放，请尽快输入您的银行信息，我们可以将您的付款交给您。
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一旦支付已经通过账户将被关闭。
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感谢论坛中所有顶贴，帮助的人！
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" x4 o* u: T4 tJohn.Mason深夜码出好几百字的指导建议，
kisscssy不停地帮我出主意，建议我怎么应对monetizer的邮件，
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