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今晚无法入眠。。。心塞。。。
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3 v6 Y! X) F& U2 Z* W$ u 接触广告中国快一年了,纯小白,之前一直在潜水,最近开始实操,跑崔晃晃推荐的Monetizer(afflow),一开始跟大家一样不停地亏损,直到后来测出两个盈利的offer,一个CY的sweeps和一个ZA的大人offer,这两个offer让我回了本还略有盈利,CY的sweeps的offer是在popads上跑出来的,ZA的大人offer是在popcash上跑出来的,不过offer都停了。
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流量平台用的popads和popcash,其中在popads上买流量花费了$180,popcash上花费了$60,被封时monetizer账户$277。( O t; [ N+ V% x& i0 I) ~/ C
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' a' F- h6 g) Y0 a: E6 J [" m 今天,AM突然给我发消息称我的账户涉嫌作弊,还给我发来一份报告(报告我会在附件中贴出来,大家帮我分析下),当然我也是吃了一惊,我从来都是规规矩矩的操作,afflow有很强的cloak系统,我甚至offer长啥样都没看到,从哪来的作弊?2 i7 T5 g r. v9 [
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! M) E! w% o7 O8 b. {/ E 当然我首先是跟AM各种解释,贴出了我两个平台买流量的充值记录,又贴出了我的campaign截图,甚至贴出我记录优质websiteId的表格,然而对方却说他们会把结果交给检测小组和广告商,等了半天,给我回复说广告商已经证实了欺诈。。。让我去找流量源讨说法 MMP ;任何解释已经多余了,网页上的对话已经把我拉黑了,消息都发不出去,心已碎。。。( Q& D6 W0 @- m5 |+ y- c8 n
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; [; O" _" X% D. O4 [7 l* l* z" z" ]& b 总结下我盈利的这两个offer,第一个CY的sweeps,popads上跑的,塞浦路斯小国家,流量很小,但是offer单价5刀,有一定的运气成分在里面,没有任何优化就可以盈利,这个offer上撸了有个40刀,第二个ZA的大人offer,我首先是在popads上看了南非的bid,太TM高了,结果就找到了popcash,offer刚上了不久就开始有转化,抓了几个转化不错的websiteid放白名单,这个offer让我撸了100多刀,但也就是死在这个offer上。。。
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Monetizer给我发的报告全是关于这个offer的,说下这个南非的大人offer,转化运营商来自VODACOM,优质的websiteID有4个,其中两个量还可以,每天转化大概有30多个,持续了大概有3-4天,后来offer就停了。1 U, g9 R% a. p) k
期间我为了优化这个offer,甚至还跑去问popcash的客服这几个网站每天最大能给我提供多少流量,然后不断提高bid来获取最大流量,我甚至把与popcash客户对话的截图作为证据都发给了monetizer,然而在无情的monetizer面前,徒劳的。。。# s. O2 C- u; h) w
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/ V& T1 c) f1 e3 H7 bHey, this is not due to the details of the offers, we have just had a fraud alert for your account and after pulling the report have deduced that the bulk of your conversions were fraudulent, unfortunately we have a no tolerance policy for this and as such your account has been banned and you will not receive any further payments due to all of your conversions being charged back by the advertiser, I will attach the report. 嘿,这不是由于提供的细节,我们刚刚有一个欺诈警报后你的账户和拉报告推断,大部分你的转换是欺诈,不幸的是我们有一个没有宽容政策,因此您的帐户已被禁止,你将不会收到任何进一步的支付由于你所有的转换被广告客户,我将附上报告。 Report (点击可以直接下载report) 8 i! V, W6 P, k
我:what? are you kidding? i buy traffic from popcash and popads ,So far, I've spent $230. 什么? 你在开玩笑吧? 我从popcash和popads购买流量,到目前为止,我已经花了230美元。 " U5 Q- `4 w# d! d
You may see a offer conversion from ZA VODACOM and certain fixed sites, but that's my optimization result, therefore I also specially consulted popcash customer service manager, this site every day the biggest can provide much traffic I think you're wronging a good aff 你可能会看到一个来自于我的网站和一些固定的网站,但是这是我的优化结果,因此我也特别咨询了popcash客户服务经理,这个网站每天都能提供很多流量 我认为你错怪了一个好的aff。 ) t9 b' V& v# y, n5 Q
I'll relay your information to the fraud detection team and our advertisers 我将把你的信息传递给诈骗检测小组和我们的广告商 ok,thanks What information do you want to know that I can provide? Any evidence will do. k,谢谢 你想知道我能提供什么信息? 任何证据。 I'll see what the fraud detection team say, unfortunately I do not know much about the matter 我将看到欺诈检测小组的说法,不幸的是,我对这件事的了解并不多 4 V$ E% t8 e9 I$ |, A5 @, z
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Before the investigation is clear.I want to keep the communication channel.Before that, I will not run any offer or withdraw until the matter is clear. I hope I don't ban my account now, so that I can maintain normal communication with you. When can I get a reply? I bought all these traffic. If there is any problem, why didn't you tell me in advance? 在调查开始之前。 我想保持沟通渠道。 在此之前,我不会提出任何报价或撤回,直到事情明朗。 我希望我现在不禁止我的帐户,以便我能与你保持正常的沟通。 我什么时候能得到答复? 我买了所有的交通。 如果有什么问题,你为什么不提前告诉我? We can only file a report when our advertiser has an issue with traffic, we did this promptly upon receiving warning, I've just contacted our advertiser and they have confirmed the leads were fraudulent, therefore the advertiser is charging us back for all the leads, you may want to speak to your traffic source regarding this 我们只能提交一份报告当我们的广告商已经与交通问题,我们及时收到警告,我刚刚联系了我们的广告客户,他们已经证实了欺诈,因此广告商收取我们的领导,你可能想要告诉你关于这个流量来源 # L" @, E; E. m' I' ~ ?! H% F
Do you need to know my source of traffic? advertiser have confirmed the leads were fraudulent ? This is irresponsible advertisers. 你需要知道我的交通流量吗? 广告商证实了导致欺诈吗? 这是不负责任的广告客户。 No we do not need to know the source of your traffic, this is as far as we go unfortunately, we cannot pay out any fraudulent traffic and we have a no tolerance policy on this. If you have been sending traffic from a traffic source then you may want to speak to the traffic source in regards to the money you have spent, as we cannot pay out the conversions due to our advertisers charge backs 不,我们不需要知道你的流量来源,这是我们很不幸的,我们不能支付任何欺诈性的交通,我们对此没有容忍的政策。 如果你已经从一个流量源发送了流量那么你可能会想要和流量来源谈谈你花了多少钱,因为我们无法支付由于我们的广告客户的费用而导致的转换率
$ J; a" f1 O8 _1 G% U$ eI don't need tolerance. I need the truth.So far, I've spent $230 on buying traffic from popads and popcash. My purchase records have been sent to you before this. 我不需要宽容。 我需要真相。 到目前为止,我花了230美元购买了popads和popcash的流量。 在此之前,我的购买记录已经寄给你了。 Where the traffic has come from is not the issue. It is the traffic itself that is the issue 交通流量的来源并不是问题所在。 交通本身就是问题所在 Please give evidence if there is any problem with the traffic. This is the result of my labours, which you have denied. I just buy traffic to run the offer and optimize the data. 如果交通有问题,请提供证据。 这是我工作的结果,你已经否认了。 我只是通过购买流量来运行报价并优化数据。 You have the full report. I am afraid this matter is now out of our hands, the traffic has been proven to be fraudulent and we have taken the necessary actions. If you have purchased the traffic from a traffic source then you need to speak to your traffic source regarding any loss of finances. Thank you 你有完整的报告。 恐怕这件事现在已经不在我们的手中了,交通已经被证明是欺诈的,我们已经采取了必要的行动。 如果你从一个流量来源购买了流量,那么你就需要和你的交通来源谈谈你的财务状况。 谢谢你! 4 `& A1 Q# L5 L- Q8 |/ \
Isn't it unfair to be sure that you're cheating on an advertiser's face?
. h; @# a1 m& J+ Q+ y* oDid you ever think about advertisers wanting to pay less? 确保你在广告客户的脸上作弊是不公平的吗? 你有没有想过广告客户想要少花钱? Couldn't send(拉黑我了)
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Just now. Not seen yet
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& _8 }1 j+ v h1/30日,发给monetizer的第一封邮件贴在25楼
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1/31日,monetizer的回复,贴在了36楼 5 N; L. }4 S/ d/ o" f) n' A9 s! Z: O+ a
1/31日,给monetizer的第二封邮件,贴在了40楼$ g7 Q& |% c3 }( a
2/1日,昨天发的邮件monetizer的AM没有回复,今天同样的内容再发一遍,另外在monetizer首页上找到了个官方邮箱,决定把第一封邮件发到这个官方邮箱
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3 R: [! N5 x2 g9 l8 U$ ~2/2日,John给我回了邮件,感觉态度缓和了许多,甚至还用上了这句化“we are well aware that it is highly unlikely you intended to do so”(我们清楚知道你打算这么做的可能性很小),John的邮件贴在了52楼。
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2/2日,回复monetizer的邮件。邮件主要主要是对John的感谢,说明我是如何知道afflow,然后在上面跑offer的,最后就是表示我已经找到一套适合我自己的优化方法,如果以后我在平台上加大投入,该怎样避免这样的问题发生巴拉巴拉的。。。邮件贴在了54楼。
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2/3日,没有回应
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