人为刀俎我为鱼肉，残酷
JeffWang 发表于 2018-1-30 10:53
流量平台还能退钱
毕竟心虚
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虽然这种东西很难去证明， 但是afflow也真的太粗暴了， 让我感觉在甩锅，好歹也有点一来二去的环节，直接上来就宣判结果。。。。。。
只能说真是没啥人权。
唉，你是不是用国人身份被歧视了？
帮顶。afflow这个结论也下的太武断，太干脆了。封号的动作倒是挺快
昨天没想到Monetizer很快就给我回复了，着实意外
总结了下，AM的回复主要有一下几点主要意思
1、可能我真的什么都没做错，但是我应该去找我的流量商投诉
2、如果出现异常，monetizer只会投诉的我的流量，言外之意就是他们只能听广告商的说法
3、想要广告商的联系方式？没门
4、如果你想去论坛发帖投诉，那你应该搞清楚状况，如果你的流量确实有问题，将会对你非常不利。
Monetizer的邮件我将在楼下贴出来
我计划再回复一封邮件，
1、表明我确实是冤枉的，
2、表明我也跟平台一样非常痛恨各种作弊，我理解平台严格的审核机制，
3、描述我推断：也就是他们怀疑我作弊的offer的转化基本都是来自的4个站，如果这4个站真的有问题，那么为什么我在这4个站上跑同类型别的offer转化却非常差，间接说明我的流量没有问题。
4、再次要求他们给我提供我所有的转化列表。
5、催促他们加快审核。
Monetizer的邮件回复：
Dear affiliate,
Having spoken to our VP in regards this situation, we have some information regarding this incident and how to go forward.
“I just buy traffic, run offer, and then optimize the data for the maximum profit, I did not do anything else illegal.”
When you take in traffic and distribute it (via Monetizer) you should be aware of what it is you are sending.You should also be aware of the consequences if fraud is detected. If you, in fact, did not do anything wrong, and this traffic was not sent intentionally (which I can understand might be the case here), you should complain to the traffic source, who actually did wrong to you.
We are in between you and the advertiser and we only communicate a complaint against your traffic.
Therefore, as is procedure in these cases, your account is “on hold” now for suspicious activity (this protects our advertiser from paying for fraudulent leads, and yourself from purchasing more fraudulent traffic) as we were told by our advertiser that your traffic was fraudulent. We are currently awaiting more information from the advertiser and the carrier about the fraud, which we will for SURE forward to you so that you have all the information we have. Until then communication stays between Monetizer and the Advertiser and Monetizer and yourself only.
If you would like to complain to the public then you can do so, but you should be aware that if the advertiser and carrier are right and you did send fraudulent traffic, this publication of the incident will definitely turn out to your disadvantage, as we will protect our advertisers and partners (which basically sums up the majority of this industry) from your traffic and business and will not just take any name-shaming from your side lightly. You should think twice about whether you can assure 100% that your traffic was NOT fraud and wait for the full report to come.
Kind regards
John
附上谷歌翻译（不得不说有道翻译真是渣。。）：
亲爱的affiliate，
就这种情况与我们的副总裁谈过之后，我们有一些关于这个事件进一步发展的信息。
“我只是买流量，运行报价，然后为了最大利润优化数据，我没有做任何违法的事情。“
当您通过Monetizer进行推广时，您应该知道您要发送的内容。如果发现欺诈行为，您还应该了解其后果。如果你事实上没有做错什么，而且这个流量不是有意发送的（我可以理解这里可能是这种情况），你应该向流量来源抱怨，谁对你真的做错了。
我们处于您和广告客户之间，我们只会针对您的流量进行投诉。
因此，正如在这些情况下的程序一样，您的帐户现在处于被禁状态（这可以保护我们的广告客户免于欺诈性的销售线索，并避免购买更多的欺诈性流量），正如我们的广告客户所告知您的流量是欺诈。目前，我们正在等待广告商和承运商提供有关欺诈的更多信息，我们将会为您提供所有的信息。在此之前，沟通只能停留你和Monetizer，以及Monetizer和广告商之间。
如果你想向公众投诉，那么你可以这样做，但你应该知道，如果广告商和运营商是正确的，你使用了欺诈性的流量，这个事件的发布肯定会变成你的劣势，因为我们将会保护我们的广告商和合作伙伴（这基本上概括了这个行业的大部分），而不会对您的流量和业务造成任何影响（原话：will not just take any name-shaming from your side lightly感觉怎么翻译都不是那个意思）。您应该考虑一下，您是否可以100％保证您的流量不是欺诈行为，并等待完整的报告。
亲切的问候
约翰
好歹是有沟通，继续继续，至少别让john把你一棒打死
继续观看中~~~加油，扳回人权
1/31日夜 给monetizer的邮件回复原文
Dear John
Thank you for responding to me so quickly and communicate for this so actively.
First, let me state again that I did not do anything that violates the rules. Buy traffic, run offer, optimize data and get the most profit, then repeat again and again. I spent a lot of effort for my campaign. I do not think there is a problem with my traffic. I will make my own point of view on this issue next.
Second, I was in a hurry when my account was blocked. I did not understand very much why did you forbid my account at first. Then I went to understand EMU. I think the EMUer make leads through illegal method. Each year, they will cause considerable losses to platforms and advertisers, and even will affect us legitimate affiliate, and then I understand why Monetizerhas such a rigorous review mechanism, that is in the protection of the healthy development of the industry.
Third, you know, in the report you had given me, doubts point to 363264 and 363679 these two websiteID, yes,the offer A (because I can not login to see the offer number, so I call it ‘offer A’)which run on these two sites had brought me a very good income, yes, there may be site owners to create the leads and then let me invest more to buy their traffic. Days after, offer A paused, I started running other offers which came from the same type and the same country on these two sites, but they did not perform well and can even be described as so bad. If the site owners are really cheating, so then when I run other offer should be able to get the same good results.However, this is actually not the case .You can check all my data and see what I'm saying is the truth or not.
Fourth, I still ask you to provide me with a complete report, The report you gave me contains only the data on the 22nd of the 23nd, and I need all the data whitch come form the date 21th, 24th, 25th, and the 26th Whether you think it is legal or not, I want it.
Finally, I like monetizer, many people recommend this platform, including Zeno and so on, I also learned from them these skills, please monetizer give me the truth as soon as possible.
A wronged affiliate by monetizer.
附谷歌翻译：
亲爱的 john：
感谢你能如此之快的给我回复，并为这件事积极沟通。
首先，再次申明一点，我没有做任何违反规则的事情。买流量，跑offer，优化数据并获得最大利润，然后重复再重复。我为我的campaign花费了大量的心血。我不认为我的流量有问题，这个问题我会接下来具体发表我的观点。
第二，当我的账户被禁止的时候，我非常着急。我了解你们禁止我账户的原因，一开始我非常不理解，后来我去了解了EMU，我觉得他们通过非法的途径来制造leads，每年他们都会会给平台和广告商造成相当大的损失，甚至会影响我们这些合法的aff，然后我理解为什么Monetizer会有这么严格的审核机制，这是在保护行业的健康发展。
第三，你知道，你给我的report，疑点都指向了363264 和363679 这两个websiteID，是的，在这两个网站运行的offer A （因为我无法登陆账户查看offer编号，暂且叫这个offerA）给我带来了很不错的收益，是的，有可能是网站所有者故意制造leads来让我在他们网站上投入更多的流量费用。后来offer A 暂停了，我开始在这两个网站上跑的其他来自同一个国家同一个类型的offer，但是他们表现并不好，甚至可以用差劲来形容。如果真的是网站所有者在作弊，那么当我在他们网站上跑其他的offer的时候，获得的leads也应该相当不错啊，但事实并非如此。你可以检查我所有的数据，看我说的是不是真话。
第四，我还是要求你们给我提供完整的报告，你给我的报告只包含23日22日的数据，我需要的是所有来自21,24,25和26日的数据。 无论你认为合法与否，我都想要。
最后，我喜欢monetizer ，很多人推荐这个平台，包括zeno等等，我也是是从他们那里学会了这些技能，请monetizer尽快给我真相。
一个被monetizer冤枉的aff
你这种其实还算好～跑几千几万刀在和你说就惨了
跑几千几万，不是到提款额度了就提款还怕个啥
499400587 发表于 2018-2-1 01:07
附谷歌翻译：
亲爱的 john：
感谢你能如此之快的给我回复，并为这件事积极沟通。
是 John封你的 ？
